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Write a 250 word summary/. Your summary could include information on the following:
- What did you learn from the discussion?
- What was the most surprising thing you heard during the conversation?
- Was there anything you heard that struck you as particularly beautiful or disturbing?
- Were there any questions that you still had after the conversation was over?
- What did you enjoy about the conversation?
- How do you think the talk could have been improved?
3) include one direct quote that the speaker said in the interviewAll right, welcome, everybody. I’m glad you guys could be here, you could join us today. We are very excited and very lucky to have Jesse Maroney with us, representing the Islamic Institute of Orange County. This is a very large, very beautiful mosque that I used to take students to when I taught up in Orange County. So it’s yeah, it’s just a really wonderful, welcoming place. And I’m so lucky to have such a close connection with them. So so thank you so much for being here during during Ramadan. Very, very special and busy time. And I will I will turn it over to you, OK. I would like to first and foremost say hello to everybody in Islamic terms is the greeting. The pieces are salamu alaykum meaning peace be upon you, Rahmatullah. He will work out, you and me, the mercy of God and his blessings as well. So what we’re going to take a do take a quick view is of or take a quick look at is what Islam is and kind of who Muslims are. And I’m kind of going to go by the guidelines of actual.
System that kind of Jamal’s that he has, and I just want to kind of give a shout out to him at some levels that he’s the outreach manager here, I am kind of just the fill in. But if there’s any questions or comments after this actual presentation that you can reach out to him and this information is here. So if you want to take a screenshot of it or if you just want to write it down, I would probably suggest that you do, because any follow up questions that you may have that may not be answered in the series or in this lecture, you can actually reach out to him directly and he’ll have more than enough heart to answer anything and be very glad to do so.
So what is Islam versus the Greens of Peace, like I just mentioned, and. Salaam aleikum, peace be upon you. Now, one of the things that also, too, I want to mention before we kind of get into Islamic, what is this also to Shalom is in the Holy Bible. One of the things that you will see that Islam has in and of itself is that it’s very compatible with the other previous religions that you see, even Christianity has some level. There is some primary differences, but you’ll see a lot of similarities and compatibilities and a lot of the same stories and the same lessons being taught.
Also, to another point out in the upper chamber to me, his disciples, he said, peace be upon you. So this is pretty much what the prophets have said. And the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, actually said this to. So, Cui’s. Does anybody know who is the most mentioned prophet by name in the Koran?
Anybody can answer and you guys can unmuted yourself come back, hopefully you didn’t leave the class, you know, sometimes kids skip out in class, right? So that’s me skipping class. And anybody who knows the who’s the most mentioned prophet by name in the Koran. Yes. Yes. And Muhammad still a lot in Islam. No, no, no, no, it’s not. What exactly. The question about the man many times the mission for the name, message and Koran, that’s exactly what you need is what the message are for Islam and don’t it? Yeah, but the most the most mentioned prophet in the Koran is Musa al-Islam. Yes. I think is it’s maybe I not understand the question.
No. Yeah, no, it’s OK. No, no. Because the reality of the Koran is, is that it’s coming out of the mouth of the Prophet Muhammad. It looks not right. No doubt about that. But what’s mentioned the most is actually Moses. Right. So this is the primary thing. But I didn’t put up the questions or that
the choices just because I wanted to see what will come out. But no or Noah, as mentioned quite a bit. Moses has mentioned quite a bit. Abraham is mentioned quite a bit as much a part of it or Jesus. But Moses is mentioning the most. Now, one of the reasons I want to kind of get a just a little bit deeper into that question. One of the reasons why that is said actually from a scholarly perspective is because the story of Moses peace be upon him is a story of a battle of good and evil, a battle of truth and falsehood. And that takes form a lot of times in our society or in our world in a very, very it’s like it’s it’s like serves as the archetype or it serves as the template of how things are going to form. Such as like there’s the belief system of the pharaoh against Moses. There is an actual economic system. There’s an actual military industrial like a military industrial complex type of situation. And also to the magicians are served as like the media. So you’ll hear that sometimes in deeper Islamic talks. But I just wanted to mention that just one of the reasons we be is because there’s going to be this continuous struggle between morality and morality in this world. OK, so next is he just mentioned twenty five times in the Koran. Abraham has mentioned 69 times in the Quran, Moses is mentioned one hundred and thirty six times in the Koran. So it shows you also to the importance of these profits, right? A lot of times Hesus is mentioned only Muhammad peace be upon him, his name only five times. But it shows you the importance of prophecy. It also shows you in importance sometimes of these specific prophets. Moses, like I said, again, serving as
the kind of guideline of how it’s going to kind of govern, building the society, the battle between truth and falsehood and begin to establish righteousness and justice within the land. Abraham, peace be upon him of some of the trials that he went through of trying to you. Bring truth to his family, also true to his society and some of the different things that they would go through also to sacrifice of. The love that we have to materialism sometimes that that needs to come out for our true faith to actually shine. So that’s another example overall of his story. And then Jesus, peace be upon him is related or very relatable to not only Muslims, but also to Christians. And it’s a story of kind of setting things straight, but also to beginning the process of understanding the miraculous nature of our lives and also that we want to detach ourselves from heavy entrenchment of materialism. OK, next question. Who is the only woman mentioned by name in the Koran? Does anybody know, Elizabeth, you should have all of these down now. Yes.
Who’s the only woman mentioned by name in the Koran? Anybody want to guess, anybody want to guess?
Oh, yeah, yeah, go.
Anybody want to guess who’s the only woman mentioned by name on?
Mary. Oh, OK, good. She got it, she got it. Oh, there afterwards. Yeah. Marium Good. Yes. So who got the first hopes on the move in the car and she got it. Go ahead, Hope. All right.
OK. All right. So, yes, one of the things that’s interesting is actually that her life is actually explained very in detail in the Koran, especially when you take a look at the Arabic grammar and then also to Jesus peace be upon him. His life is actually explained, some scholars would say, more than an actual Bible itself. So it’s a very interesting fact. Which country in the Muslim world has the largest population? Does anybody know? Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Germany, Indonesia, Pakistan. I am white because I translate the question that I, I am about to answer this question, I’m sorry, it’s over. What’s a country in the world has the largest Muslim population. Does anybody know? I can tell you one thing is not Germany, Pakistan. Oh, that’s a good Indonesia. Which one? Indonesia and Indonesia. OK, anybody else?
OK, so let’s take a look. What is it like in Indonesia, I’m sorry he didn’t put the answer out there, but it’s actually Indonesia. Indonesia actually has the largest Muslim population. It is, I think, upwards of the tune of almost one hundred million. Seventy five million around that round, that range is probably growing probably day by day. Pakistan has a very big Muslim population. It’s very big loss to Saudi Arabia and Egypt, too. But Indonesia is definitely
the biggest population period in the world. OK, next one, famous Muslims. Anybody know that Dr. Oz is a Muslim?
Did anybody know that? It’s very interesting. I didn’t know until a couple of years ago, no.
OK, next one. Janet Jackson became Muslim. She was married, I think she recently got divorced, but she was married to a certain I think it was a prince that was a very. Successful entrepreneur, billionaire.
The to Malcolm X, I think everybody knows about Malcolm X being Muslim. He actually converted. Why he like I think Ganek Zakani is another one, but that’s that’s kind of like in the Muslim realm, meaning like a lot of Muslims know that not non-Muslims. Malcolm X was one, but he converted to his. He’s a very interesting story because he got a very unorthodox understanding of Islam in the beginning and then converted into Orthodox Islam later on in this life, especially before he was assassinated. Keith Ellison is the Congress. He actually is that he’s the guy. Does anybody know what case he just took on?
Nobody was one of the biggest cases, I think he presided over the case, which one of the biggest cases that. It happened actually in the last year.
Somebody got killed.
African-American.
Biggest case, George, starts with a George George Floyd. Yeah, yeah, that’s wow, that’s really interesting. Yeah. So when I’m mistaken, he’s the one who’s actually presided over the case just recently.
All right, this is does anybody know who this is before I put the name up? I don’t know if you guys know.
He’s Moroccan.
Now, no, we know his name is French Montana now, he may not be the greatest example of a very practicing Muslim, but he does identify Islam as his religion. He is a rapper. He’s very well known, especially to a lot of the younger youth, very influential, especially when it comes to music. And this is Lupe Fiasco. This is another rapper, he’s pretty well known, a little bit more toned down than French Montana, maybe not as well known anymore as he used to be. Ishbel. Dave Chappelle is a Muslim. He actually gives a very good lecture or not, I should say, Letterman, for a very good interview with David Letterman. I guess David Letterman has like a podcast now. And so he does a pretty good interview and he talks about his experience of actually going to Hajj and going to the cities of Mecca and Medina. It’s pretty powerful. This is Jay Horded. He’s another one. If anybody looks at social media, he did a post just recently where he was praying and a couple of people actually converted to Islam through it. Maybe not the best example of obedient Muslim, but there is different levels of people practicing. So like a lot of people, especially from the orthodox realm, would see the goal, the change and the gold necklaces and stuff like that. And that’s kind of not what Muslims wear. But there’s like I said, there’s different levels of people practicing. OK, Mike Tyson, Mike Tyson, I think, started out with the Nation of Islam and then then after who I think is boxing against boxing. Yes, Mike Tyson boxing. Yes, this is Mike Mike Tyson. He’s a pretty famous one. So this is him actually probably either making Ulmarra or Hajj, probably most likely Hajj. And that’s behind him is actually the Kaaba. It’s actually the holiest one of the holiest sites of Islam. And this is Habib. He
is a UFC fighter. He just recently retired, undefeated, probably one of the best in the UFC fighting, I guess, fighting organization. So he’s pretty well known. A lot of the younger Muslim youth kind of look up to him as a symbol of discipline, a symbol of patience and the symbol of strength and courage.
So what do you know about Islam? So I hope you’ve been on the move. I’m going to I’m going to get a little interactive, but on the move today, what do you know about Islam? Can you tell me before I kind of go into this, just what do you know? I know some basic information as far as the time of prayer during the daytime and things like that and. I think towards pray, pray towards Mecca, I believe. OK, so some basic information, I have a few friends that are Muslim but don’t know a lot of really in-depth things about it. OK, gotcha. So, you know, we’d pray towards Mecca. Do you know who our prophet is? Yes, Mohammed. OK. OK, so you do and what’s our book that we utilize as like a holy book?
You’re I’m you, I know, I’m sorry, I was trying to think of traffic, but.
What it’s called,
I know I’m trying to try to think it starts with the cue, it starts with the Q is it the Koran? There you go. You got it. OK, OK, go ahead, Hope. All right. So so OK. Miss Lopez, Eric Lopez. Eric Lopez. Are you there? Yes, I am here. How are you doing? Good. What do you know about Islam? Because I know it’s just the Rashid knows Majida Rashid knows pretty well. So I want to hear what Miss Lopez knows about Islam. I don’t know much about the religion and the belief. It’s a religion that’s practiced like in Pakistan and India.
I, I think it’s pretty much what I know. I don’t know much about it. That’s OK. Already, so when you think of Islam, what comes to your mind? So what comes to Erica? I mean, I just want to I’m sorry to pick on you a little bit, but what comes to your mind anyways, if you do think of Islam?
I think about a very strict religion, very strict religion. OK, what makes it strict for you anyways? To me, I feel like it’s a very determined religion, something that you have to do constantly shows intensive. Yes, gotcha. Make sense. OK, I was honest. Are there any things that. I feel in the media before I kind of get into the pictures and everything, is there any certain preconceived notions you have about Islam, any negative things that you guys think about that? Maybe I can kind of explain or not explain or whatever the situation is. How or. Yeah, what what do you in American society what what often gets talked about when Islam is brought up? Well, I have a quick question regarding, like, the the headdress that most women wear. Is it cultural as well as religious, the way that they wear the headdress? It can be cultural. Like I give example, like it’s not mandatory that a woman covers her face, like from this area. Right. So or from the over the nose and things like, can you guys actually see me on the can you actually see me on the side. No, you can’t see me again. We can’t. OK, but what I should say is, is that some people, some women, if I because if I take this shared screen down, it’s just going to change up. So I apologize. I don’t know how to split it as right now.
Let’s take a look.
Because the same kind of controls. All right, I’m just going to have to next time, I will have it. But anyway, like you see some cover the whole complete faces. You know, what’s mandated or what’s required in Islam is actually to have a level of modesty and just kind of cover the hair, the neck and kind of just and wear modest clothing just like kind of like where the cleavages. So it’s it’s religious. Some of the ways that is actually put together is actually cultural or like some of the interpretations of is actually just kind of like you see in Africa where they kind of just tie up the head actually, and the neck is exposed. That’s actually one way that’s interpreted to actually wear it. So most what you’ll see when it comes to the hijab or the covering is actually a Persian style, the most in most of the world. It was actually adopted by the Persians, had a very unique way when wearing it, and most people adopted that that practice in a fashion way. It’s not so much just because of religious mandate, but what’s supposed to be represented in that situation is kind of like what we see in the common picture of Mary or the mother of Jesus. Right. Is that modesty and that that kind of humility and that kind of, you know, trying to think of the word, but just kind of humility and modesty just overall and humbleness. And one of the things that’s seen on a scientific level, especially I’ve heard Muslim scholars talk about this, is interesting, is that one of the reasons for some of this is because. Well, anyways, our understanding is that when pheromones or radiate from women and it comes from men, that there’s a natural touch. So you’ll see an actual rule in Islam that men and women shouldn’t, like touch each other if they’re not like together in marriage. What’s right and what’s interesting is that there’s this interaction, especially on a scientific level, that begins to happen. And so also to one of the things that we see in Islam is that especially when a woman takes a kind of offer scarf for whatever situation, just her beauty is overwhelming, especially to the males. A lot of times you ladies kind of got the one up on us on that one. And so we kind of try to find some medium to kind of keep everybody even keel. Also to another aspect, just to kind of let you guys know is that one of the things is that the beauty of the woman is so magnificent, is that when they unveil themselves that we believe that the angelic realm begins to kind of like disperse because the beauty is just so much so. So that’s just one just from other side things and the other misconceptions. Erica, do you have any like anything like you see Islam? Is it like a terrorist organization or, you know, these different things? Well, I was about to mention that I feel like Eddie has created that negative image about Muslims or Islam people. Mm hmm. Yeah, well, I think one of the things is that we kind of have to realize that we’re going into the next one, right? Is that this has been a real reality, like Saddam, al Qaeda fanatic, Taliban fundamentalist Muslim terrorists. Right. Which there has been terrorist organizations and terrorist groups that have manifested with Islam as their banner. That has been a real thing. Now, the overwhelming majority of Muslims are not in that category. There has been a couple of bad apples and a lot of them had Islam as their banner, but they actually had other agendas in mind. That’s one of the real things. You know, like especially like some of those groups went into like a school and killed a bunch of kids. Not not at all sanctified by Islam. Not at all. Anything that we have really ever done, you know, when it comes to al-Qaida and just, you know, just bombing random places with innocent people and things of this nature, not even military engagement in a proper way. There’s there’s all these things are pretty much done under the name of Islam with non Islamic steps taken to to do certain things, especially when it comes to military engagement. It’s a very high level of, ah, there’s a very, very strict ruling behind going into a military engagement type of situation, like it’s has to be on the battlefield. It does not anybody innocent that there should be no trees burnt down, should be no buildings broken, should be no religious areas are sanctified, areas messed with or at all touched. I mean, there’s a lot so many rulings that most all countries don’t hold to any of these. I mean, especially in this modern day warfare. And nobody holds to these rules pretty much anymore. But this is what this what Islam calls to. And so it deters any type of real violence or any type of violent action or even military action is like the last resort in any situation. It’s like the last thing that you really want to get into. And this is kind of recognizing Islam has been how Islam spread was not by the sword. That’s another concept. It actually was by trade. A lot of it was actually just doing business, them going into different areas and actually trading. So Islam and Muslims in our world research, there is one point eight billion Muslims in the world, roughly 20 percent of the global population. Islam is currently the world’s second largest religion after Christianity. Islam is the fastest growing major religion in the world. Middle East North Africa region is only home to about 20 percent of the Muslim worlds Muslims. So I want to emphasize that Middle East and the North African region is only home to about 20 percent of the world’s Muslim. The world’s Muslims, a majority of the Muslims global globally live in the Asian Pacific region. In 2015, there were three point three million Muslims of all ages in the US, about one percent of the population.
We’ll get confused with these two terms, Islam versus Muslims. Islam and Muslims. Islam is the way of life, right? So Islam in general means it is a way of life more than a religion. Dean is the word that is used in the Koran to describe Islam. And it means a complete way of life because it’s not something that’s just like actually Erica talked about. It’s a little bit more intensive right now. There’s different levels of people practicing. So I don’t I don’t want to say, like, it has to be this or you’re not a Muslim at all. That’s not actually how it goes. But Islam is a complete way of life. So what I mean by that is this. Yes, we do pray five times a day. That is sure. We also, too, are commanded to eat a certain way. It’s actually pretty. We can eat pretty much. Mostly everything is up to just a few things, such as like we can’t take a intoxicants. Not eat pork or any type of like predatory animal. And so we kind of believe in that, you know, we want to stay harmonious with what is balanced. And so, like, if we, you know, ingest like a pig, we don’t want to take on the reality of a pig. That’s kind of how we interpreted it must do predatory animals. We don’t want to take on like a hyena spirit or hanging in the way of life. And so we kind of have this balance and we’re supposed to eat of the pure intoxicants. We believe that our intellect actually has a right over us and not to be altered, not to be contorted, not to be kind of washed over with poison. So that’s the situation there. And, you know, we’re supposed to actually do certain things to make a living, meaning that there are certain things that we can’t do. So if we can’t ingest pork or
ingest intoxicants, we can’t sell those things. We shouldn’t we shouldn’t actually sell those things. We should actually do good trade, honest, righteous trade, give example. Like if we’re selling the item, we’re supposed to show the item presented enough to if there’s any defects, point those out, point out what the situation is. If you say we’re doing trade, we’re also just supposed to trade in in the best way to say if we’re doing the stock market, there’s certain stocks that we can invest in a certain stocks. We can’t. So if I can’t eat it, if I can’t sell it, then I definitely can’t invest in it. That’s another that’s another thing. You know, so such as like Budweiser may make a lot on the stock market, but we couldn’t invest that we can invest in, you know, maybe Absolut Vodka, these types of things.
And also to, you know, the way that we dress, that’s another thing. Even forget just outside of the women also to Muslim men are supposed to dress modestly. Doesn’t mean that we have to have a big thobe or the big gowns that you see everybody wearing, especially in the Middle East. That’s not you don’t have to wear those. You know, you can wear whatever is culturally appropriate, but it just should be modest. We shouldn’t be I guess you would say, you know, wearing really super, super tight things where it shows off all the definition of all different parts of our body and things of that nature. We wanted to be a little bit more loosely, a little bit more humble in some of our stuff about nice things. You still wear Dolce and Gabbana and all those different types of things. And that’s that’s actually very nice and beautiful things have actually promoted in our religion. But it just should be that we should have a level of modesty with ourselves.
Also, when it comes to our wealth, how we acquire wealth it just talked about, but also, too, we are mandated to actually give out of our wealth once a year. It’s called the car. So this is a complete way of life. And I’ll go into a little bit more. So it’s it’s kind of from A to Z, and it’s not here to kind of like rule over you like a like a like a, you know, an oppressive ruler. But it’s actually supposed to actually begin the process of elevating
a Muslim, though. So Islam is the way of life or the religion, but Muslim being a Muslim is actually a person who submits to that. Now, the beautiful thing about the word Islam, right, is that Islam ultimately comes from a root word called Selema, which means to be sound, to be safe, to be whole, to be secure, to be free from blemish, to be in a state of security. Right. And so as a Muslim, we begin the process of actually by submitting to the will of God, but following Islam, we begin that process of trying to find that peace in that security within our lives. OK, what is Islam? Islam simply means submission to the creator. Muslims is the one who follows this way in life and cements it, which is just fine, and then Christianity follows Christianity, Buddhist father Buddhism and then Muslims follow Islam or Judaism is the Jewish tribe. So. Basically, Muslims, we follow Islam, right, so it’s the same concept, the Christians while Christianity, Buddhists follow Buddhism. So it’s just a set of rules and regulations that we have and guidelines to ultimately submit to the will of God. Who is a law? Does anybody know who a law is, how about hope you know who a law is, it says it says it up here, but have you ever before, before this class, have you ever heard a law before from your Muslim friends? You did. Did they ever explain to you, like, what the difference was or, you know.
Just that they that’s their respective PAGAD. OK, got your high gun, OK. All right. More specifically, it means the only duty worthy of worship. All right. So also to another thing. No partners associated with God, no daughters or sons of mediators. Let me just put in a name for God and for example, the most merciful. OK, so let me put this down. Let me kind of go step by step. The word law means God in Arabic. Also, too, you’ll see in other.
Bibles that are written in Arabic or Arabic, that they actually have the name a law in there. So it just means God, it just means overall God or like Pope said, the most high God or just the one God more specifically means the only duty worthy of worship, which is actually inside of the actual name itself. One of the things that we say is lesser evil law, meaning that there is no deity worthy of worship except God except the law. We believe that there’s no daughters or sons or materials or images because we believe that God is infinite and outside of time and space. So he doesn’t come in form or imagery. That’s pretty much what we believe as Muslims. So nine nine names of law, one of the names of a law is Amen and is the most merciful. And this name is very beautiful. One of the reasons being is because it means the one who is lovingly merciful to all of his creation, irrespective of if they are obedient, disobedient or whoever they may be, whether it be human, whether they be animals, whether to be angels, whatever, he just overwhelmingly spreads this infinite love over his creation.
The most compassionate, that’s Amen, Raheen, so that is more specific that actually that type of mercy, now that overwhelming mercy spreads to the creation, then there’s a specific mercy that spreads to the people who actually enact faith in the proper way. The all knowing also to use Alali, meaning that he is the all knowing over every single aspect of life, both internally, externally, what will be, what won’t be, what is now, what is to be, what is not to be every single dimension of life. And then the all wise al-hakeem, one of the names of God is Al-Hakeem, meaning that he is wise. Right. So one of the things that we believe in Islam is that no matter what is happening, whether you’re seeing what’s going on in Palestine right now, what’s going on maybe in China or wherever is going on in the world, that even though it may seem constrictive, dark and oppressive at points, there is a wisdom behind everything that is going on. There is an underlying light that’s inside of the situation, no matter how rough it may seem, that will at some point manifest itself or the wisdom will play itself out to where we begin to understand certain things. And sometimes the wisdom as thing is actually just just us understanding that the actual action of the process that we have been doing things is actually wrong. That’s one interpretation. OK, that’s the name a lot in Arabic.
Who is it? All right, what is the term used in the Bible for God, I mentioned that before. It’s the law approximately seven times on the first on the first page. Same God of Moses, Abraham, Jesus and Mohammed. And God in Aramaic is Elijah or Elijah. And then he brought it on him, so it shows you the similarities that we have just found in the biblical text. This is us to find in Hebrew and it’s found in other places even to there were some hieroglyphics, hieroglyphics recently, maybe like 10 years ago and not recently, but that were uncovered that talked about the story of Joseph peace be upon him, just like in the Koran, which was very interesting. Articles of faith. Go wrap. God’s existence and oneness. And then revelations and then and. Profits, so this is the basis of our what we believe in, it’s called like the six articles of Faith, but that’s kind of the primary way in which we talk about it. But this is just kind of the general meaning, God’s existence and is one of us. So one of the important things is that we don’t believe in multiple gatherer monotheistic religion believing just one God and that he is the all powerful. And now what happens is, is that he sends revelation and he sends revelation through his prophets. When you take a look at human history, what’s the interesting thing is, is, is that whenever there has been great human development, there is always been a book behind it. There always been a book behind it. And that has been a revelation. So whether it be from a gospel standpoint, whether it be from a Torah standpoint or B, from the chronic the last one, the Koran, you’ll see that there’s this huge movement within society, especially of development. When you take a look at the Greeks or you take a look at the Romans or you take a look at any civilization that that had or we take a look at even in Jerusalem, you know, those areas, there was a lot of technological development, a lot of really high level things, and even some places now like in Africa and these different regions they’re uncovering. Items that were there that have copper. Copper roads and all these types of amazing things that we can’t even think about that would cost us tons of money, just a building like we don’t even think about it in Beverly Hills. So it’s it’s very interesting, you know, God’s existence and oneness, right? Design implies a designer. Right. So one of the the always the arguments he’s made is that if we found an actual watch on the ground and you picked it up, what would you say would you say to this? Just watch this showed up here randomly? No. Right. You would not say that. You probably say that somebody made this. They had it in the factory. They melted the metal and they put it all together. So this is our common thing that we say as Muslims, as the design implies, the designer. God does not change one of the beautiful things is that God does not make mistakes and does not change, right? If we had a God that made mistakes and changed, this world would not exist. That’s the situation, you know. So everything is moving in harmony. Everything is moving in the way that it should, even though sometimes our mind can’t really grasp it. But we’re in a finite realm or we have a limited amount of knowledge. So sometimes what we’ll do is we’ll try to make sense of something that is actually way
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